Page 1 of 2

Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:00 pm
by DDinNTK
Hi everyone,
I'm planning a trip to Kings Canyon/Sequoia this September. A group of 4-5 guys in their late-40s, all with significant backpacking experience. We'd like to get back to some backcountry lakes, cross some high altitude passes, and enjoy the scenery. Due to time constraints, we are flying in and out of Fresno, so need to start on the west side. We will have 4 days/3 nights in the backcountry. Initially, we were looking at the Rae Lakes loop, but I feel like that might be tough to pull off in only 4 days. I've also researched some loops out of Mineral King trailhead (Little 5 Lakes, Sawtooth Pass, etc.) which sound pretty nice.

My question to you is, should I do a "out and back" in the Rae Lakes area (to Paradise Valley, or Reflection Lake), attempt the whole Rae Lakes loop in 4 days, or head south to the Mineral King area for a loop? Having never been to the area, I'm interested in opinions - or other possible options.

Thanks so much for any guidance.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:42 pm
by maverick
Hi D,

Welcome to HST!
Is your group up to doing some cross-country? How many miles a day are looking at doing?
Besides the areas you have mentioned (Rae Lakes and MK), for a 4 day hike, you should also consider Wolverton/Pear Lake/Tablelands, HST/Hamilton Lakes/Precipice Lake, Horse Corral Meadow/Seville Lake/Lost Lake/Ranger Lake, Roads End/East Lake/Reflection Lake, and Lewis Creek/Granite Lake.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:53 pm
by RoguePhotonic
Mineral King will give you more high alpine scenery vs Rae Lakes loop and even Lake Reflection that gives you hotspots but in general is more low forest travel.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:55 pm
by AlmostThere
If you think Rae Lakes loop is too much, don't do a loop over Sawtooth. Just don't. A pass with a real trail vs. getting lost in a maze of use trails in the scree, no comparison, Glen Pass will be several orders of magnitude easier.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:24 pm
by sparky
With that time frame I would probably be looking at out and backs to sphinx lakes, lake reflection, tablelands, or just go to Tuolumne meadows and explore the cathedral range.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:33 pm
by Flamingo
+1 to what Rogue said about Mineral King. You'll get fantastic scenery from the moment you start hiking. A classic loop is: Mineral King -> Lost Valley -> Soda Canyon -> Franklin Pass -> Mineral King. It's about half the length of the Rae Lakes Loop, and it includes all the things you're looking for: high passes, alpine lakes, and big views. Along the way, there's epic campsites at Monarch Lakes (west side of Sawtooth) and Little Claire Lakes (head of Soda Canyon), to name but a few.

[edit: I realized that my route advice conflicts with AlmostThere's advice about Sawtooth Pass. Take my suggestion with a grain of salt, I suppose.]

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:03 am
by wildhiker
Hi DDinNTK,

When you say 4 days in the backcountry, are you allotting an additional day to drive up and camp near the trailhead to acclimate the night before, or is the four days the whole trip from Fresno to mountains and back?

Are you wedded to the national parks? I would also consider a trip into the Silver Divide in the John Muir Wilderness to the north of the parks, out of the Edison Lake area. A bit further drive from Fresno, but also big mountains, plenty of lakes, and more trails that lend themselves to a shorter loop. For example, you can do the John Muir Trail segment from Lake Edison (take the ferry) north over Silver Pass, check out all the big lakes there, then come back over Goodale Pass with a side trip up to Graveyard Lakes before finishing up back at Lake Edison.

-Phil

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:45 pm
by DDinNTK
Great information everyone! I appreciate it. From what I'm reading, Mineral King seems like a better scenario for us.

I wanted to answer some questions that have been asked. (sorry I'm delayed in checking my own post)

We are willing to do cross-country travel. Our trip last year to Denali got us used to using map/compass & gps.

I appreciate the warning on Sawtooth Pass, I had no idea and will take that in to consideration.

We will have a day to acclimate the day prior to our hike, and won't leave Fresno until the day after we come out.

vhsvhs: that hike sounds amazing, and will have to go to the top of our list for now.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:47 am
by AlmostThere
Glacier Pass is not Sawtooth Pass, it's farther to the left of it than you think it should be. It's actually the better way to do Sawtooth but nearly everyone cuts straight up the ridge instead of going far enough to the left. Talk to the ranger at the station about how to do Glacier instead of Sawtooth. The difference is coming over the ridge and descending to the bottom lake in the chain of paternoster (love that term) lakes instead of descending to Columbine, at the top. Doing Sawtooth the least arduous way would be going up almost to Glacier, then hanging a right on the top of the ridge back over toward Sawtooth Peak, until you get to the big cairn that marks the top of the pass.

Both of these are cross country passes, no maintained trail at all, and that means since they are popular that there are multiple use trails that wander around -- not for everyone, definitely not easy if you get off route and up to your thighs in scree.

Re: Backpacking logistics in Kings Canyon/Sequoia

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:21 pm
by slopapou
Last September I did a loop out of Mineral King that I would highly recommend: Mineral King, Franklin Lakes, Franklin Pass (11,760), Little Claire Lake, Big and Little Five Lakes, Black Rock Pass (11,600), Pinto Lake and back to MK through Timber Gap. 42 Miles in 5 days with an easy day in the middle between Big and Little Five Lakes. I'm 66, so if you are in your 40's, experienced and in great shape, you should be able to do it in 4. I had mild altitude sickness for the first two days so I second the notion of a day or so of acclimatization pre-hike unless you know you are not subject to AS.The people at Silver City Mountain Resort are great if you decide to hang out pre-hike. Check out hike # 34 in the Wilderness Press Sierra South book for more information on this loop.