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Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:37 am
by oldhikerQ
In a short while, i will be freed from the bonds that require me to work full time. To celebrate, i am planning on following Mr. Muir's advice and spending (most of) a summer in the Sierra. My current plan is to stitch together 7 nominal one-week trips as follows:
Twin Lakes (Mono Village) - Virginia Lakes
Virginia Lakes - Tuolumne Meadows
Tuolumne Meadows - Agnew Meadows
Mammoth Loop (Ashley, Fern, Beck Lakes, etc)
Red's Meadow - Rock Creek
Rock Creek - North Lake
North Lake - South Lake
The plan also includes one or two days out between each leg to resupply/shower/wash clothes, etc. i realize that these are not week long trips by many of this group's standards, but since i will be pushing 70 when this occurs, i will be taking a much more leisurely walk.

My question is would you apply for just a single permit (Twin lakes to South Lake) or apply for the 7 individual permits? I'm concerned with getting the permits over Donohue Pass as well as the final segment.
Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.
Cheers

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:05 am
by John Harper
I'd go for a single permit, and pad some extra days onto it to account for unexpected events.

John

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:03 pm
by maverick
In a short while, i will be freed from the bonds that require me to work full time. To celebrate, i am planning on following Mr. Muir's advice and spending (most of) a summer in the Sierra. My current plan is to stitch together 7 nominal one-week trips as follows:
Twin Lakes (Mono Village) - Virginia Lakes
Virginia Lakes - Tuolumne Meadows
Tuolumne Meadows - Agnew Meadows
Mammoth Loop (Ashley, Fern, Beck Lakes, etc)
Red's Meadow - Rock Creek
Rock Creek - North Lake
North Lake - South Lake
The plan also includes one or two days out between each leg to resupply/shower/wash clothes, etc. i realize that these are not week long trips by many of this group's standards, but since i will be pushing 70 when this occurs, i will be taking a much more leisurely walk.
You did not indicate when you would like to embark on trips?
Just so you know, the Lions Fire has closed Fern and Beck Lakes Trails. Smoke is bad in a lot of those areas.
Keep an eye on the fire reports: http://www.highsierratopix.com/communit ... &start=190

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:43 pm
by oldhikerQ
Mav-
Thanks for the link; i'll keep an eye on it. i'm looking a couple of years into the future for my sierra summer.
Here's hoping that everything is well under control by mid August.
As for this year, we're set for a trip up rush creek to lakes off the JMT as well as 1000 island the second week of September.

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:29 pm
by wildhiker
For your planned Sierra summer, I think you will find that the Park and Forest Services will only issue a single permit for a continuous trip in the wilderness. If you are going to exit back to civilization for a day or two and then re-enter, you will need a separate permit for each such entry.

Also, you don't need to use the John Muir Trail (with its exit quota on Donohue Pass) to get from Tuolumne Meadows to Agnew Meadows. Use the Parker Pass/Koip Peak Pass route - it's more dramatic, anyway.

-Phil

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:12 am
by oldhikerQ
Thanks for the idea Phil. That route was on my radar a while ago, but escaped the list.

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:45 pm
by franklin411
At least for Inyo, you can exit the wilderness for up to 24 hours and reenter as long as you do so from your exit point.
Crossing Park Boundaries

Your wilderness permit must be issued via Inyo National Forest if your trip starts from Inyo National Forest, even if the first night of your trip will be spent in an adjacent national park or forest.

One permit is valid for the duration of a trip, including traveling through adjacent parks and forests.
If you exit the wilderness in Inyo National Forest for more than 24 hours or re-enter at a different location, a new permit is required for the new entry location.

Re: Trip Plan Advice

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:26 am
by oldhikerQ
Thanks for the information franklin411.
Since i will (hopefully) be having a companion, or companions, on each leg of the trip, and their number may change, it seems like separate permits will be the way to go.