Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

If you've been searching for the best source of information and stimulating discussion related to Spring/Summer/Fall backpacking, hiking and camping in the Sierra Nevada...look no further!
User avatar
LMBSGV
Topix Expert
Posts: 756
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:42 pm
Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Location: San Geronimo, CA
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by LMBSGV » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:24 pm

Thanks for adding the PDF map. A very interesting and creative route. I really enjoyed reading your report and the photos. Dawn is amazing. And Happy Birthday!








User avatar
kpeter
Topix Expert
Posts: 920
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:11 pm
Experience: N/A

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by kpeter » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:47 pm

Yes, the map really helped me follow along and impresses me even more. Amazing 13 year old trooper you have to do all those cross country passes.

User avatar
TahoeJeff
Topix Expert
Posts: 966
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:03 am
Experience: N/A
Location: South Lake Tahoe

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by TahoeJeff » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:28 pm

Man, what a great adventure and cooresponding report! You're daughter is one of the toughest 13 yo backpackers around. Those beautiful Bows grilling over the coals look deelish.
“A decline of public morals in the United States will probably be marked by the abuse of the power of impeachment as a means of crushing political adversaries or ejecting them from office."

Alex de Tocqueville 1835

User avatar
Harlen
Topix Expert
Posts: 776
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:13 am
Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Location: California

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by Harlen » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:00 pm

Giantbrookie writes:
In sports they talk about "making a statement" with a performance, but for an aging recreational athlete such as me, the statement one makes is to oneself.

That's an interesting and humble perspective, but you may be discounting the interest your friends and family take in your exploits, and us too, here at HST. That was a great trip you two made, and we love seeing and hearing about it.

Your photos of Lake 10,400+ and the ones around Lake Edna are really fine. And the pictures of you and Dawn navigating between rock and Ice in a hailstorm are wonderful too.

We really envy your time in the mountains with your kids John. How do you do it?! I hope it's just a matter of not having the ocean to compete with your mountain fun, rather than our over-loading the boys. You are pretty generous with the amount of the load you carry.
Congratulations on such a successful trip. Ian.
Last edited by Harlen on Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
sekihiker
Founding Member
Posts: 588
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:47 pm
Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Location: Fresno
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by sekihiker » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:32 am

giantbrookie wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:15 pm
ChainAdairLillianRouteDone.pdf
Holy Cow! The map really tells the tale.

User avatar
Wandering Daisy
Topix Docent
Posts: 4677
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:19 pm
Experience: N/A
Location: Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento area)
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by Wandering Daisy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:15 am

There are a couple of good reasons to keep kids' loads light until they reach their later teens. First is that this makes their trip more enjoyable and they will more likely stick to backpacking. Second is that while kid's bones are growing, heavy loads are not recommended (medically). Just be thankful that you no longer have to carry the kid too! Also, if you carry the food, then although starting weight is heavy, each day your pack gets lighter.

Thanks so much for adding the map. It is always nice to know new off-trail routes in that area. I would imagine that Red Peak Pass would have some terribly steep snow at this time so it is good to know of some detours.

User avatar
Harlen
Topix Expert
Posts: 776
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:13 am
Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Location: California

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by Harlen » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:45 am

WD writes:
There are a couple of good reasons to keep kids' loads light until they reach their later teens. First is that this makes their trip more enjoyable and they will more likely stick to backpacking.
DSC01646.JPG
But he seemed happy with his big pack?
DSC01614.JPG
Maybe I shouldn't have made him dig out the whole snow cave? :(
You must be registered and logged in to view the files/photos attached to this post.
Last edited by Harlen on Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:04 pm, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
giantbrookie
Founding Member & Forums Moderator
Founding Member & Forums Moderator
Posts: 2945
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:22 am
Experience: N/A
Location: Fresno
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by giantbrookie » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:12 am

Wandering Daisy wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:15 am
There are a couple of good reasons to keep kids' loads light until they reach their later teens. First is that this makes their trip more enjoyable and they will more likely stick to backpacking. Second is that while kid's bones are growing, heavy loads are not recommended (medically). Just be thankful that you no longer have to carry the kid too! Also, if you carry the food, then although starting weight is heavy, each day your pack gets lighter.

Thanks so much for adding the map. It is always nice to know new off-trail routes in that area. I would imagine that Red Peak Pass would have some terribly steep snow at this time so it is good to know of some detours.
Yes, I don't want to give Dawn too much more next year. During the trip, the stove and water filter was shifted to Dawn's pack, and I think that will be pretty much the limit of changes I will make to what she carries. Regarding Red Peak Pass, I've never been over it, but looking at the topo its north side looks very steep. I suppose it wouldn't be super scary if there is good runout below that headwall on the north, but if no runout, or if it's corniced, I could see it would be a problem. We met a group near Upper Merced Pass Lake that had turned back at Red Peak Pass owing to both the obscuring of the trail by snow and the steepness of this snow. They were pondering their options. Given their position and goals (and lack of desire to go off trail), I recommended that they do the "end around" to the south and east, by heading over Fernandez and then Post Peak Pass. Now, let's say someone really liked off trail stuff, found Red Peak Pass too steep and wonderered how one might continue eastward with the minimum amount of detour. Then I think there are several additional options in addition to wrapping around to Grayling as we did from Lower Ottoway. I think one can go E from Upper Ottoway through the Ottaway-Merced Pk saddle, then curve around to a NW direction above Edna, so as to avoid the steeper snow, then head for the upper part of the drainage going down to Lower Edna. As a variant from L 10400+ I think one can also head directly through the gap ESE of the lake that is directly north of Red Peak.
Since my fishing (etc.) website is still down, you can be distracted by geology stuff at: http://www.fresnostate.edu/csm/ees/facu ... ayshi.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

User avatar
Wandering Daisy
Topix Docent
Posts: 4677
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:19 pm
Experience: N/A
Location: Fair Oaks CA (Sacramento area)
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by Wandering Daisy » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:51 am

Harlen- having been around little girls (my kids) and little boys (grandkids) it is my observation that little girls have a whole lot more common sense than little boys. My girls ended up in the emergency room about once per 15 years; my boy grandkids end up in the emergency room yearly. At NOLS I taught one course for 13-15 year old boys. My main job was simply to keep them from killing themselves.

All kidding aside, there is a lack of appropriate or ultra-light gear for kids and that makes it more difficult to keep the pack weight down until they grow enough to fit into adult clothing. Even "youth" packs are too heavy. I just bought my soon to be 13-year old granddaughter a good quality light women's x-sm pack. She is going to be short, like her mom, so I think it will serve her well for several years. She is also ready for a good quality down sleeping bag this Christmas.

I often think I should start an outdoor equipment/clothing business and call it "Hobbits"- good gear for small people.

User avatar
sekihiker
Founding Member
Posts: 588
Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:47 pm
Experience: Level 4 Explorer
Location: Fresno
Contact:

Re: Tale of Three Drainages: S Fork Merced, Merced, San Joaquin 7/20-26

Post by sekihiker » Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:01 pm

Wandering Daisy wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:51 am
Harlen- having been around little girls (my kids) and little boys (grandkids) it is my observation that little girls have a whole lot more common sense than little boys. My girls ended up in the emergency room about once per 15 years; my boy grandkids end up in the emergency room yearly. At NOLS I taught one course for 13-15 year old boys. My main job was simply to keep them from killing themselves.
Having been a little boy and having taken my daughters backpacking, I have to agree. There is not too much exaggeration in what you say, WD.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], c9h13no3, ChuckSten, creekfeet, Google Adsense [Bot], kpeter, wldmarion and 7 guests