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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby maverick » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:29 am

Sambieni wrote:
I know Bernice, but where are those lakes and Hellhole pass?

Lakes are the ones above Bernice and to the east, and the pass is just south of Simmons Peak on the ridge.

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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby sambieni » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:01 am

Maverick. Thanks. Looks like fun! Any idea if one could cross from Ireland Lake down into the area w/ all the lakes -> Bernice lake rather than take trail around? Seems coming over that ridge may be quite steep, but if not, could be fun. We won't have climbing gear/ropes.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby maverick » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:18 pm

Sambieni wrote:
Maverick. Thanks. Looks like fun! Any idea if one could cross from Ireland Lake down into the area w/ all the lakes -> Bernice lake rather than take trail around? Seems coming over that ridge may be quite steep, but if not, could be fun. We won't have climbing gear/ropes.


Hell Hole is quite steep on the eastern side, and if you do not navigate correctly to by-pass the cliffs, it can go from a class 2 route, to a class 3 and above really fast. There is another pass, unnamed, further north, above Ireland, but its western side takes some routefinding skills to keep it in the class 2 range. You should not attempt either of these passes, if you do not have solid crosscountry pass experience, neither of these passes fall into the beginners category.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby sambieni » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:36 pm

thanks. answer I needed.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby happycamper0313 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:08 am

Wandering Daisy wrote:Lots of trail closures from Rush Creek- cannot get to Thousand Island Lake from Silver Lake unless the trail ban is lifted. Has to do with the stability of the Waugh Lake dam. If it is truely a dam safety issue, this may be in effect for the whole summer and I doubt permits will be issued.

Not necessarily for your trip, but for those who cannot get a permit out of Agnew Meadow, and if you have an extra day, you can go in from George Lake via Mammoth Pass and drop to Reds Meadow to intersect the PCT/JMT. This may be an easier permit to get.


I did this over the holiday weekend.

Lake George --> Mammoth Pass --> Red's Meadow/Devil's Postpile/JMT/PCT --> Agnew Meadows --> High Trail/PCT --> River Trail -->Agnew Meadows -->Devils Postpile Road --> Minaret Vista Road --> car parked at end of 203
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby Wandering Daisy » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:01 am

I have gone from the west edge of Galliston Lake, up to the west arm of Pearson Peak, and traverse east over the northwest arm of Pearson Peak and drop to Ireland Lake. The route has some steep stuff- not hard but not for a beginner. If you are posting here in "Backpacking 101" this route is probably too hard for you. Not sure if this is the "pass" you are talking about, Mav.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby sambieni » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:36 am

Wandering Daisy wrote:I have gone from the west edge of Galliston Lake, up to the west arm of Pearson Peak, and traverse east over the northwest arm of Pearson Peak and drop to Ireland Lake. The route has some steep stuff- not hard but not for a beginner. If you are posting here in "Backpacking 101" this route is probably too hard for you. Not sure if this is the "pass" you are talking about, Mav.


Posting in the subforum "Backpacking 101" was happenstance more than anything; but most likely we will just do the full trail around if we decide to explore this route.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby sambieni » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:45 am

My buddy and I are back to most likely doing Deadman Canyon loop and skipping JMT w/ side trips from Red Cones -> TM.

How easy is it to traverse from Elizabeth Pass to Moose Lake? Seen bits/pieces on the web about it, but thought would ask for advice here.
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Re: Deadman Canyon Loop

Postby wildhiker » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:10 pm

I've hiked from Moose Lake to Horn Col, just east of Lonely Lake, but never finished the last 1/2 mile or so contour from Horn Col to Elizabeth Pass. I've read that this last bit is straightforward, and the slopes on the topo are not steep. Could be snow there this year. Navigation on the TableLands from Moose Lake over to Horn Col (or vice-versa) is easy - everything is exposed and visible. One key is to stay high between Moose Lake and Pterodactyl Pass - trying to go straight across leads you through difficult terrain. From Pterodactyl Pass heading east, you have to drop about 700 feet down into the basin and then climb back up to Lonely Lake for the easiest route. Here is a snippet of map showing some of the cross-country routes I have done on the Tablelands as dotted lines.

Oh, and it took my wife and I about 1/2 day to go from Moose Lake to Lonely Lake. We are fast hikers on trail, but take our time off trail.

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