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Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 10:41 pm
by corvus
Hey y'all, this is my first post so please let me know if I'm leaving anything important out. These forums are super awesome and incredibly helpful.

So -- I had planned to do the Circle of Solitude (https://calitrails.com/2013/02/03/circl ... canyon-np/) this summer with a couple of friends. Buuuuuut: I need to be done with the trip by mid July. I'm looking at the snowpack right now and thinking that Forrester Pass is unlikely to be a good scene at that point. This is Forrester in late June 2011: http://noahstrycker.com/2011/06/forester-pass/ I'm an experienced backpacker/routefinder but haven't ever used an ice axe.

I'm interested in suggestions for backup options that are likely not to be snowed in during the first two weeks of July after a big winter. Maybe the Trinity Alps or Marble Mountains? Other places in the Klamath-Siskiyou area? Anyone have thoughts on spots further north, and whether the slightly lighter snowpack and lower elevation in the northern Sierra makes those better bets?

What I'm looking for: about 8 days, about 10 miles/day, some flex on either of those -- could do less mileage on the main route and take some basecamping/exploring days. Terrain preferences: I was really looking forward to high Sierra terrain, since I did the HST a couple years ago and would love to get back. I'd like to get out of the trees and get views, big bonus points for lakes and swimming options, strong preference for less traffic than the JMT. Some cross-country sections are fine.

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:08 am
by balzaccom
Tough criteria. I expect the snow level in early July to be around 9.000 feet, and it will linger around there on the north faces of passes etc. for at least a couple more weeks. And the further north you go (Trinity Alps) the lower the snow level will be.

What about a through hike? from Tahoe to as far south as you can get? You might be able to get as far as Sonora Pass (or at least come out via Clark Fork) without hitting major snow issues...

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:46 am
by AlmostThere
If there weren't extensive closures due to closed roads and last year's fire, I'd suggest the coast. I don't think you're going to be able to string together a long Sierra hike without snow until late July.

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:31 am
by corvus
Maybe the answer is to get more comfortable hiking in snow and carry microspikes? Or learn to use an ice axe?

I've been keeping the Lost Coast as a backup -- I've been up there, but not in years, and there's that whole section below Shelter Cove I've never done. I think Big Sur is probably out, between crowds and the fire.

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:56 am
by AlmostThere
Crowds in Big Sur? The people living there are struggling with huge washouts and one of the bridges is falling apart - no one's getting down there. The wilderness is closed due to the fire damage and severe washouts of the trail system are inevitable.

Lost Coast will be similar - the roads to trailheads were iffy in the best of times, if there was weather. I have not checked but would expect similar road issues and trail washouts.

As for ice axe... http://www.sierramountaincenter.com/tou ... kills/#all

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:02 pm
by maverick
Hi Corvus,

Welcome to HST! If you would like to reqest places outside of the Sierra the please post in the "Beyond The Sierra Nevada" section at the bottom of the page. :)

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:05 pm
by corvus
Thanks Maverick! Wasn't sure whether to post here or there since I'd prefer to do a Sierra trip but am looking for options elsewhere too.

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:17 pm
by oldranger
Consider the area between Badger pass road and the park boundary. Some interesting terrain and lakes. Not High Sierra but an alternative. May have to deal with nasty creek crossings and snow on the n. slopes, though. may be able to acces from Quartz Mt. Trailhead and if not more than likely from Chiquito Creek Campground. If you can't scout ahead of time I would opt for Chiquito creek as it is quite a trip to Chiquito Creek if you Select Quartz Mt. TH and can't get close (there are several places where the road to Quartz trailhead traverses n. slopes and the snow will stick for quite a while).

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:34 am
by wildhiker
It's not nearly as wild as the true High Sierra, but how about the eastern (Carson Range) half of the Tahoe Rim Trail? Because it is in the rain shadow of the main Sierra crest, the Carson Range gets less snow which melts out sooner. You could do something like Tahoe City to South Lake Tahoe on the east side of the lake. Actually, doing it while there are still melting snowbanks is probably a good idea, as many stretches of trail on the east side of the lake have limited water sources. The trail is in and out of the forest, but the views of Lake Tahoe are just spectacular! You don't need a wilderness permit for the TRT on the east side of the lake (only for the Desolation Wilderness section on the west side, which will likely be too snowy still in early July), so this could be a last-minute backup plan. Check out the Tahoe Rim Trail Association website for more information.
-Phil

Re: Recs for an early July trip (~8 days, ~70 miles)

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:41 am
by Tom_H
You put that you are Level 4, yet you have never used an ice axe. In my mind, those do not fit together. Unless we get warm rain that melts the snowpack (flooding us all), you're ll be on snow almost anywhere. You should consider waiting until later in the season, going to lower elevation, or getting some professional training in ice axe, crampon use, stream crossing, etc.via REI, NOLS, or someone else.

Actually, doing an extended summer trip on packed snow is exhilarating. There is a serene beauty. It is physically demanding and something you will never forget.