Moderation standards for XC Passes subforum?

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Moderation standards for XC Passes subforum?

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I've noticed a lot of conversational chatter on posts in there, either people asking questions about an area or "kudos" comments that stick around for months/years. The forum guidelines clearly state that "the posts in this forum should be information/data only".

This is interesting to me personally,as I had a post deleted a while back there within hours with snarky comments. Not coincidentally that's when I stopped contributing regularly to the forum.

What warranted such a vigorous response? See the Vennacher Col post I made and include some more information that served as a bit of warning about how KSR defines Class 2 (basically anything without exposure afaik regardless of mode of movement). The explicit bit about it not being a guidebook is new, but I did clearly state it was a fiction novel that had a small section in it about a backpacking trip and it seemed clearly derived from KSR's personal experience. I assumed my second attempt only survived because it was commented on around an hour later.

https://www.highsierratopix.com/communi ... 49#p172049

I get that HST tries to be "nice", but IMO you should either stick to your guidelines or explicitly loosen them if they're not going to be enforced. One of the responses I got was "Obviously, the intent of that forum is to provide users with essential, elementary information (EEI) only, not muddied up with extraneous content."

There's a lot of non "EEI" content there - IMO adding a secondhand account to a pretty sparse post with images that aren't useful (far off low res images with watermarks on them) counts as valid "additional information" and others thought so as well.
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Re: Moderation standards for XC Passes subforum?

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Thanks for bringing this to our attention, and I'm sorry those rules have impacted your participation (that was exactly our fear when first laying out those rules, and still our fear when enforcing them). While we have tried to maintain a certain adherence to those rules, there are times in which that enforcement can be quite subjective. There are other times in which competing moderator responsibilities cause things to slip through the cracks. What I recommend: if you disagree with moderation of post(s), please let us know via PM or other means. If there are posts which you feel do not abide in the best interest of the forum, please report them.
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Re: Moderation standards for XC Passes subforum?

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"I deleted your post to the above thread in "cross country passes" forum because it violates a couple of rules pinned to the top of the forum. Read the guidelines and I'm sure you'll figure out which two rules were violated."

I was familiar with the guidelines from previous contributions over the years, but wasn't sure which two rules they were referring to and asked to clarify. It still felt like a stretch compared to a number of the existing posts honestly. A pass on the forum was done recently as some of the clearly off topic conversational ones on Feather-lite etc are no longer there.

Here's two more:

https://www.highsierratopix.com/communi ... 92#p176892
https://www.highsierratopix.com/communi ... 10#p166710

I've also had threads I've started deleted from here for no particular reason (luckily I had copied some pertinent information from a discussion on the SPS Scrambler rating system) and come back from backpacking trips to multiple deleted private messages from mods with no explanation (and not after any recent interactions). I felt like Amelia Earhart was worth adding a different perspective on and doing so brought this past interaction to mind as there were some clearly non EEI comments on that (one was removed, one is still there).

While I appreciate your thoughtful response, I'll decline the offer to reach out to moderators directly as I'm pretty sure that's what started this. As you probably remember I reached out due to the actions of one of the mods here and basically got a one line response that they'd delete what they'd done and wouldn't do it again (with the **** eating grin emoji). I proposed some ideas for a compromise that would serve the community here and was ghosted then another mod started going after me in retaliation.

Again I'd recommend:

1) Enforce your rules evenly.
2) Loosen your rules.
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