Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
Regarding the crowds and rain. There is no permit system so it is hit and miss on the major trails. I think the reason I encountered so many people when I walked out is that the weather finally lifted after several weeks of pretty nasty stuff. So everyone who postponed their trips were flocking inward! I have also been on this major trail and encountered few people. And just like the Sierra, if you simply move half a mile off the trail, the crowds disappear.
As for the rain, this is typical of the Rockies and Canadian Rockies (and MOST mountain ranges). The difference is that you cannot plan every day, every hour as "hikable" like I do in the Sierra. You really have have a "make hay when the sun shines" strategy. Statistically, July - Sept one day out of every three has precipitation, mostly in the form of heavy but brief afternoon storms. These storms also have severe lightning and wind - not something you want to be out in. These periods of stormy days are usually clumped in a few days of afternoon storms followed by a few days of clear weather. I never have had a trip totally scrubbed because of weather. I usually build in one contingency day and then stay very flexible - getting on the trail eary (aim for 7AM) and get to my destination by early to mid afternoon. If weather holds, I keep walking, if not I hunker down. And light snows can be expected any time of year. I actually prefer the snow to rain.
7AM to 1PM gives me 6 hours if hiking - enough to be assured some 6-10 miles of travel. It is really important to plan on doing all passes in the morning. In the lower elevations and in timber on trails, this is not so critical. All in all, the weather is not that difficult to work around. And the clouds and storm-lighting really make for great photography. Fish also seem to really bite just before and after storms.
As for the rain, this is typical of the Rockies and Canadian Rockies (and MOST mountain ranges). The difference is that you cannot plan every day, every hour as "hikable" like I do in the Sierra. You really have have a "make hay when the sun shines" strategy. Statistically, July - Sept one day out of every three has precipitation, mostly in the form of heavy but brief afternoon storms. These storms also have severe lightning and wind - not something you want to be out in. These periods of stormy days are usually clumped in a few days of afternoon storms followed by a few days of clear weather. I never have had a trip totally scrubbed because of weather. I usually build in one contingency day and then stay very flexible - getting on the trail eary (aim for 7AM) and get to my destination by early to mid afternoon. If weather holds, I keep walking, if not I hunker down. And light snows can be expected any time of year. I actually prefer the snow to rain.
7AM to 1PM gives me 6 hours if hiking - enough to be assured some 6-10 miles of travel. It is really important to plan on doing all passes in the morning. In the lower elevations and in timber on trails, this is not so critical. All in all, the weather is not that difficult to work around. And the clouds and storm-lighting really make for great photography. Fish also seem to really bite just before and after storms.
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Someone sent me a PM and wondered about the photos. So, here are some, but not all. It is a big chore to add all the photos, so I only selected the better ones.
Just a note - this trip was to specifically check out some areas for my guidebook. This route is NOT what I would recommend as the best route to see the area. Once you get into the North Fork of Bull Lake Creek, Glacier Panorama is a "must see". I did not go there on this trip simply because the weather went south on me.
Just a note - this trip was to specifically check out some areas for my guidebook. This route is NOT what I would recommend as the best route to see the area. Once you get into the North Fork of Bull Lake Creek, Glacier Panorama is a "must see". I did not go there on this trip simply because the weather went south on me.
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
Once over Cook Pass and past the lakes, you intersect an old trail from Golden Lakes to the Brown Cliffs. There are three passes into the North Fork of Bull Lake Creek - I looped first going over "Goat Friendly High Route" pass and then back on the "Elk Preferred Low Route" pass. These are just names I made up, but I do use them in my guidebook. Shangri-La lakes are a set of lakes on a high bench south of the North Fork of Bull Lake Creek. The upper watershed ends in a very large lake, called Big Milky Lake, before it tumbles down into Bull Lake Canyon.
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This next set of pictures is returning to Brown Cliffs and back to Golden Lakes, with a side trip. The weather was poor so I used Photo Pass and Timico Pass to get back to the east side. Normally you would do either Fall Creek Pass or Angel Pass.
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
These photos are going back to Bald Mountain Basin via the Fremont Trail, down to Cook Lakes, cross-country up to Wall Lake and the headwaters of Pole Creek.
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
From Wall Lake you go over a small pass into Indian Basin. Then you intersect the main trail and drop to Island Lake (Titcomb Basin is above Island Lake but I did not go there). Then you go back to Elkhart Park on a huge well used trail.
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
Gorgeous! I *really* must get out there one of these days!
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
Great post!... hope to get in this area this year..
Looks like I camped at almost the exact same spot at Cook Lakes two years ago.
I was surprised at how much snow there is on the east side of the range.. the cornice below 11065 looks nasty! Was this a light or heavy snow year?
Hay pass looks easier than I thought it might be.
Looks like I camped at almost the exact same spot at Cook Lakes two years ago.
I was surprised at how much snow there is on the east side of the range.. the cornice below 11065 looks nasty! Was this a light or heavy snow year?
Hay pass looks easier than I thought it might be.
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
So beautiful!
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Re: Elkhart to NF Bull Lake Creek Wind Rivers WY
Great to see all that country. Thanks a lot!
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